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Hello Michael,  Thanks for posting your build.  Its one of the best how too's I have seen.  I do have a question....  I am in the process of building what you have but I wanted some clarification on your diagrams vs photos.  Your photo shows the fuse routed off the boil contactor but your diagram shows its off the main contactor.  Can you tell me which one is correct, or does it not matter?  Thanks, Chris


   
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Hi Chris,

Thanks for the flowers. I’m happy that it’s useful to you.

Where you connect the 120V terminal strip (the fuse is between that connection) is up to you. As the contactors are all connected, there is no difference. Once you turn the main switch, current will be present on all three contactors (see below).

Note also that my pictures will differ from the diagrams as I simplified a few things in the diagrams.

Any questions, let me know!


   
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I'm no good and don't understand wiring. Is the PDF file very specific on how to wire?


   
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Mike,

The wire diagrams are the same as on the blog.

I provide more information and a few diagrams and instructions for wiring switches. I would suggest to look at the information provided on my blog. Check out the diagrams and try to understand the wiring. Ask questions if you don’t understand. I will be glad to help you out.

Rgs


   
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Hello Michael,  I got some time to get back to wiring and I noticed on your diagram you have the 120v from the contactor tying into the neutral bus bar 3 up from the bottom, as I go along I see you have the 120 receptacle tying into the same spot as the contactor.  I just wanted to make sure that is correct.  The more I get into this, the more I am going to have questions.  Thanks again!


   
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Hi!

Not sure if I understand but I think you are talking about the connection points on the terminal strips, right?

Every wire is connected to a different point on the terminal strip and they are all connected with jumper wires.

Hope that helps...

Something like that:


   
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Hello Michael, Thanks for the info.  Can you label where the neutral and hot are going to from the bus bar?  Also, do you have a jumper from the bus with the fuse on it connecting to the bus in the next spot?  Its difficult to see. 


   
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Where the fuse is connected to the Hot strip, that's the 120V power supply. So yes, all must be connected with jumpers. If not, you won't have power.

Current is like water in pipes, just see it that way.

Please don't stick to the pictures, stick to the diagrams. It says which connections are going to the N bus and which are going to the H bus.


   
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Thanks Michael, I started out following your photos and then switched to the diagram so it confused me a bit.  I am going to go back to the diagram only.  Last few questions...I hope:).....  I wanted to know if what you have listed in the diagram is a jumper between contacts on the push button, you show neutral and hot in, but one line out from the button to the 120 recept.  Also, I did not get the same kind of push button, its rated for 660 and there are a total of 6 contacts, 4 on the bottom and 1 ea about mid way up (not sure what those ones are for-see arrow)  


   
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I don't know this switch. Please check the specs from the manufacturer. I guess it has also 2 NO blocks and the LED block.

And yes, that's a jumper wire. See below...


   
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Thanks Michael, are these diagrams in your book?  I just noticed it is available now.


   
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Yes it's in the book.  ? 


   
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can I seriously build this without any/much electrical knowledge? Im getting the book no mater what just for info for my build

 

 

 


   
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It really depends on your skills Mike... I had already installed a light switch and receptacles in the past but nothing more. It took me a while to understand how it works but I figured it out.

Note that the book has a little more information about the panel build but the main diagrams are all on my blog.

Try to understand the diagrams and the components (What is a contactor, SSR,..). Ask questions if you don't understand something. Go for the book once you understand the diagrams.

I'll help were I can.

 


   
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Hi David, I purchased the book, its going to come in handy.

I was  hoping my last question was the last but I do have one more.  My lack of electrical experience is causing some issues lol.  Your last response said every connection is made by a jumper but I confused by the diagram.

I am going by your diagram and the first 5 positions seem to be alive due to the jumpers you have connecting those positions.

 In my diagram I made, I am hoping it will describe the confusion I am running into. 

In picture 1 you have  ports 1-5 hot at least that is how I am interpreting it.

In picture 2 you have the Boil Control connecting to slot 8 (Neutral and Hot) Nothing else ties into these ports so would those be in active since there is no jumper connected to them?

 Picture 3, Hot Bus 5 makes sense because it is jumpered in picture 1.  Neutral Bus in pic 3 looks like Contactor Neutral in pic 4 ties into it but still no jumpers. 

 Pic 4, Hot Bus Selector Switch Hot ties into position 6, again no jumper and it seems like it would be a dead connection.

 

If you can clarify this for me, it would be appreciated.  I am stumped.


   
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